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I can only confirm that the board of trustees is meeting this week, and I believe that the question might be made. President is on the agenda. Will you be attending that meeting on Tuesday? I shall be there. Yes. Would you be disappointed if it's only a

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temporary appointment for you, another term as acting president rather than permanent president? To me, it doesn't matter one way or the other, but it does matter to the faculty and student body. And I would rather therefore being made president because this is sort of tentative quality

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to a title like acting president and so long as there there assured that I am president, then gives a permanency to it that will be good for the morale of the whole school, I think. Can you predict a peaceful fall semester? I think so. I mean,

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the people who are unhappy about being there, both in the teachers teaching staff and then the student body is pretty much a minority, very vocal minority. I've got two grand, but they are a minority. Do you think if you are appointed president, regardless, if it's temporary

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or permanent, that you can bring peace to the campus this fall. I already have. Can you maintain it again this fall? Well, I'm not sure of it. You can never be sure anything completely, but I'm reasonably sure that things will be better in the fall than

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they have been in recent months. Dr. Hayakawa, the presidential selection committee for San Francisco State College, doesn't even have your name on the list. Their first choice would be Assemblyman Willie Brown. Well, I'm relieved. It's Assembly Willie Brown with the kind of personnel they have on

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that presidential selection committee. I'm surprised they didn't give us their first choice. Eldridge Cleaver. Somebody like that. Mhm. People have been ensuring me that if I were to run for Senator against America and have a pretty good chance. Now all this is

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very flattering for people to say. At the same time, I don't know if it's at my age. I want to start learning a new trade, and furthermore, the most important fact is that there's so much left to be done at San Francisco State College. I want

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to stick with that for a while. I'm delighted to have a chance to go on with my work at San Francisco State College because our problems are far from solved. But I believe we are on the way. As I reported the chancellor donkey and the trustees

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yesterday, we have made significant progress in recent weeks quietly and without fanfare or publicity, to build a build some kind of stability into the administration, the faculty and the student body. We are in the process, for example, of clarifying the authority of department chairman. The examine

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the lines of responsibility and administrative administrative structure of scrutinizing more carefully the qualifications of individuals selected for the faculty. Mhm confused intellectual liberalism with with the administrative indecision. And therefore, once you have shown yourself to be a tall, decisive as an administrator, they accuse you of

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being a non liberal. But I want to say to you that I remain a liberal with all the liberal goals of this college still foremost in my mind. But I'm also the administrator, and when I make an administrative decision, I make an administrative decision. I don't

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know what we do now. We came in here with hope, as I say, our hopes have been dashed. We are going to make every effort to think this through to try to see what are the ways in which we can approach the problems where the constructive

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areas in the community that we can lean on for support with one end of the net catch a solution to the strike? Yes, I did. With high into the net on board the skiff went up the social With What about the strike? What about my speech?

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About my freedom of speech? Hey, get out peacefully. I'm satisfied myself from my long talks with him in the county jail that he is, uh, changed completely and that his sincerity is absolute with his, uh, conversion or reconversion to religion. His, uh, he meets

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each Saturday with his father was a minister in a church in Oakland. And he intends to, uh, go to work as a staff member of that church as soon as he's released and become a minister himself. Uh, as far as I can ascertain. And I've talked

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to him at length about this, I think he's absolutely sincere. Give you the probation conditions, especially the ones relating to his appearance on any campus is severe. I do think that there is severe, but since the defendant since Mr Murray doesn't intend to return to the

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campus. And in any event, uh uh, his instructions. I made no objection to those conditions because he still intend to stay within the Black Panther Party. He told me today he is not a member of the Black Panther Party or the Black Student Union.